Chuka Umunna’s hollow howls of betrayal

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Chuka Umunna’s hollow howls of betrayal

Chuka Umunna’s hollow howls of betrayal regarding the absence of our post-Brexit windfall are confounding. He seems unable to grasp that the scrapping of EU funding can only be achieved once we have left the European Union, says David Sedgwick.

Barely a day goes by (or so it seems) without a bitter Remain voter taking to social media to complain about all the ‘lies’ told by the Leave side. Apparently, those duplicitous Leave folk hoodwinked almost 17.5 million voters on that unforgettable day 18 months ago – as far as mass deception goes, quite a feat.

Though as ignoble as it gets and dripping in liberal doses of arrogance as well as self-delusion – sour grapes to you and me – from a purely psychological point of view such behaviour is eminently predictable. According to Wikipedia, rationalisation is a phenomenon:

“. . . in which controversial behaviours or feelings are justified and explained in a seemingly rational or logical manner to avoid the true explanation, and are made consciously tolerable—or even admirable and superior—by plausible means.”

In other words, having been so utterly convinced of the probity of their own pro-EU opinions, and equally convinced that their side of the argument would prevail, losing the debate triggered a series of contingency behaviours in Remainers the object of which was to seek a ‘plausible’ explanation to explain their defeat.

Substantial numbers of people had in fact rejected the EU based upon some very sound reasoning. Amongst other things voters rejected the EU based upon their knowledge of its staggering incompetence; its breath-taking levels of corruption, not to mention knowledge of its wastefulness, arrogance, unaccountability, authoritarianism and perhaps most worrying of all its supranational ambitions.

There were indeed plenty of ‘true explanations’ to explain Leave’s victory. Not that prominent Remain campaigners such as Chuka Umunna would ever admit as much. Along with the philosopher A C Grayling, ex-spin doctor Alistair Campbell and any number of Guardianistas and Independent journalists, Umunna is currently fully locked into this rationalisation syndrome and has been for the past eighteen months.

Daily, this illuminati tweet about Leave’s ‘lies.’ How else could the country have so resolutely rejected their own realities if not by lying? By repeating this mantra amongst themselves, this group can indeed begin to feel ‘superior’ – that their arguments were not undone by debate or logic, but rather by skulduggery – the ‘lies’ of the treacherous Leavers, that ne’er do well bunch of rogues – Farage, Johnson and Gove – who would make Fagin and his urchins seem paragons of virtue.

Having rationalised the result thus, Umunna and friends can take to the moral high ground, lamenting those ‘lies’ without which Remain would have won a resounding victory and the UK would, by now, be well on its way to becoming a mere outpost of the United States of Europe.

In a feat of quite staggering mental gymnastics, Umunna, Grayling and Campbell have seemingly forgotten all about the many lies spun by the Remain side of the debate: punishment budgets, house-price crashes, mass unemployment, food shortages, corporate mass exodus from London etc. etc. These were real lies, lies concocted to scare the populace into maintaining the status quo. It almost worked, too.

Even now – 10 months down the line – Umunna is still regurgitating one of his side’s most persistent myths: the £350 million red bus pledge. Remember that? How could we forget? “We send the EU £350 million a week, let’s fund our NHS instead,” so read the slogan on the side of that big, red bus.

Only today, the Labour politician has been tweeting about that good ole bus once more:

I have not had any constituent write demanding the return of the Blue passport – I have, however, had many asking where the promised £350m extra per week for the NHS is, which is immeasurably more important.

Leaving aside the trifling matter that this slogan was clearly a suggestion (let’s) and never was, nor has been official government policy, Umunna continues to cling to what has become a lifeline for many Remainers – an explanation that is plausible precisely because it chimes with their unshakeable belief that Leave voters are somehow intellectually inferior to their Remain counterparts, susceptible to trickery, gullible, dense, thick, northern, working class . . .

And yet for all his wisdom and intellectual dexterity, Mr Umunna has not noticed the rather large gaping hole in his own logic: If we haven’t actually left the EU yet – thanks in no small part to the dogged efforts of the likes of Umunna and friends – then as of Christmas 2017 the United Kingdom is still paying its weekly contribution to the EU – that self-same £350 million (or, as some suggest, considerably more).

If that is the case, then Mr Umunna could surely reassure his worried constituents who keep pestering him (he says) about that same £350 million. Given that we have not left the EU and if Umunna gets his way, we never shall, surely the answer to the whereabouts of that £350 million is simplicity itself:

“It’s still with Brussels.”

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    A university lecturer by profession, David Sedgwick writes about a wide range of topics including Theatre, Politics and Formula One. His forthcoming book, ‘Shooting from the Hip’ is a collection of political essays written from a Libertarian humourist perspective. In his spare time, he enjoys marking student dissertations…
    • Ringstone

      “that ne’er do well bunch of rogues – Farage, Johnson and Gove.”

      There’s no denying it, they are, they’re politicians after all!
      And I say that, full disclosure and all – having voted “out”.

    • fourmyle of ceres

      outside of the cities which is 50% foreign born or 1st generation foreign born we voted leave 80/20

      the British dont want to be ruled by germany we had 2 wars to prove it

      • Ringstone

        There’s normally a bit of “toing and froing” before people go all Godwin!

        • fourmyle of ceres

          both massively subsidised by the English taxpayer

          Total identifiable expenditure on services by country
          eng 8,816 scot 10,536 wales 9,996 NI 10,983

      • gunnerbear

        Northern Ireland voted to Remain… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-36614443 I’m not sure you’ll find many immigrants in Northern Ireland.

      • Nockian

        We had one world war split into two parts. The war was intended to increase British imperial power and marginalise German Franco domination.

        • gunnerbear

          I thought the First World War was to mounted to enable the British Empire to capture a German-owned, small sausage factory in Tanganyika…..

          • Nockian

            Have you read ‘The Guns of August’ ?

            • gunnerbear

              I don’t think I’ve ever heard of it. I’ll have a rummage for it.

            • Nockian

              Great book by Barbara Tuchman.

            • ufford

              She was a brilliant historian. I have all her books.

            • Bill Quango MP

              It’s very famous.

              But there is no rational historical body that has ever suggested Great Britain fought the First World War to increase its imperial dominance.

              While almost every noted work on the subject suggests that is exactly why imperial Germany went to war with their Austro-Hungarian allies.

            • The ironic thing is that whilst WWI propelled the US into ‘Top Nation’ position, as Sellar and Yeatman so delightfully put it, the British Fleet was still greater than that of the entire rest of the world put together.

              Perhaps that took a hand in persuading the League of Nations to mandate Britain into ‘looking after’ that part of the now defunct Ottoman Empire in order to prevent a power vacuum? Of course, it was a poison chalice from which we would have emerged heaped in opprobrium, no matter what we had done – and so we did. The US now has that task and Britain is better off without it. As you correctly state, imperial dominance was never on the agenda.

              Bill, it is a delight to find myself able to post again to your moniker, after such a long absence. I heard, via a dormouse, that you had kindly enquired after my state of superposition and you may have seen that both the dead and the alive states were deemed personae non gratae, in no less than two places, back during the first half of 2006.

              Accordingly, I resolved to add my modest voice to assist a certain Mr D J TRUMP, who is doing quite well nowadays, if you can judge a man by the number and scale of the enemies he is prepared and happy to make. I do know the feeling!

              Happy and Prosperous New Year to you. I feel sure that that knighthood should be awarded soon.

    • chrisjones2

      He oozes the frustration of being a nature economic left wing conservative but trapped in the decaying body of Corbyn’s Labour Party waiting for the Momentum Dementors to destroy him

      THis all comes from a simple lack of moral character and the lack of balls to change his situation

    • suemary

      If you only mix In London circles your perception of situations will reflect that. If this spoilt man were actually to try living elsewhere in our country he might get a different view of things.

    • Labour never were very good at maths though were they?

      Happy New Year all!

    • Great Briton

      Look at the map showing the vote across the country.
      The main Remain stronghold was London where there are no British people.
      The other exception was Scotland which cannot be explained, they want independence but happy to be ruled by Brussels!?????

    • Ravenscar

      chukpup doesn’t know his own mind.

    • SonofBoudica

      Umunna is utterly dishonest, and twists the facts to suit his elitist ideology. He should be ignored.

      • Little Black Censored

        He has a sneering expression on his face and a sneering tone of voice. I think he regards his opponents with contempt.

      • Robert_Eve

        He is ignored.

    • gunnerbear

      I voted Leave….I don’t want UK politicians to be able to point to an external body and be able to say, “Well, I’d love to do ‘X’ but the EU rules won’t let me…” As to relative merits of each campaign…. ….Remain said, in essence, if we left, the earth would stop spinning, 1000 years o’ darkness would fall across the land and we’d be visited by a plague o’ locusts… …meanwhile not to be outdone…. …Leave said, in essence, if we remain, the earth would stop spinning, 1000 years o’ darkness would fall across the land and we’d be visited by a plague o’ frogs… I do wonder, given how consistently close the polls were over the campaign, if in reality the Leave and Remain campaigns actually really changed anyone’s mind. I know the plural of anecdote isn’t data, but I personally, don’t know anyone, from either side who changed their mind.

      • Little Black Censored

        Don’t you think the fear of leaving was much, much stronger than the fear of remaining? Even as a leaver I have been more anxious about the result than if we had lost. If we had lost I should mainly have been feeling utterly depressed.

      • Nockian

        Leave were positive. Land of milk and honey, no horrid Johnny foreigners and the entire globe clamouring to buy our expensive products and deluge us with ultra cheap goods in return. Then we would be swimming in spare cash which, if we wanted, we could throw at the welfare services.

        Between the project fear remainers and the utopian leave campaign, no attempt was made to have an honest debate. That was of course because the establishment elite had concluded it wasn’t necessary because remain would easily win and hence would go all out to frighten the beejesus out of the public with hyperbole which wouldn’t look out of place in the Old Testament. That meant the leave campaign felt obliged to give an equal and opposite response which promised nothing bad could possibly occur and the future was brighter than an Orange phone jingle (what happened to orange by the way ?).

        How many people fell for either sides schtick is unknowable at this point, but, in over a year and a half there has been no attempt by either side to widen the debate to inform the public. To this day operation fear continues along with operation ‘all things bright and beautiful’ and Theresa May operates in a bunker of secrecy fogging everything up to a real pea Souper by pretending to be a Churchillian character plotting operation market garden. Meanwhile the establishment demands a meaningful vote on a meaningless platform. God help us.

        • Bill Quango MP

          Operation Market Garden and Theresa May.
          Yes. That did occur to me too.

          Hence this clip was made.
          https://youtu.be/UOk_bR0lXdQ

          • Nockian

            No link Bill ?

      • Lacerta viridis

        “Leave said, in essence, if we remain, the earth would stop spinning,
        1000 years o’ darkness would fall across the land and we’d be visited by
        a plague o’ frogs” – pathetic bollocks.

        • gunnerbear

          I don’t recall any positive campaigning from either of the campaigns….mind you I’m not a tribal ‘kool-aid’ drinker.

          • Lacerta viridis

            Must be suffering from Alzheimer, then.

            • gunnerbear

              No, just not an unthinking tribalist.

      • Ravenscar

        but isn’t it a fuzzy warm feeling to stand on the right side – just for a change?

        • gunnerbear

          Not being a tribal voter, I make my own mind up….. 🙂

    • here’s looking at you kid

      But it was close wasn’t it?
      Like El Alemein, Waterloo and Agincourt were close but along with those battles the battle of Brexit had a clear winner.
      Victori sunt spolia.
      Get over it Chukki, we won.

      • Malcolm

        I don’t think you can describe Agincourt as close. Thanks to the longbow and its devastating effect on the heavily armoured French nobility it was decisive with mass casualties on the French side and comparatively few on ours. Perhaps the Battle of Britain would be a better example to add to the others.

      • gunnerbear

        “Brexit had a clear winner.” In the run up to the vote, Nigel F. said that if the result was 52 – 48 to Remain, he’d consider the matter “unfinished business”… …are you now saying Remainers ought not to listen to Nigel?

        • Helen Smith

          And Tim Farron said ‘Farage can’t keep having referendums until he wins’

          • gunnerbear

            And it’s a good job Powell et al kept fighting as well back in ’75…

            • Helen Smith

              At what point do we stop having reruns of the referendum, when Remain win, why should Leave be denied a third go? What if Remain won the next one by less than 1.4m, do we aggregate the scores and award Leave the victory?

              Meanwhile what happens to business in this country, all the calls for certainty and clarity? If, in the name of democracy, we have a fresh EU referendum every two years in case voters have changed their minds how do they plan?

              Farage was not PM, not even a member of government, Cameron said it was a referendum, not a referendum, we voted, Leave won, only 27 countries in the whole wide world are members of the EU, the others manage and prosper just fine, as shall we.

            • gunnerbear

              “At what point do we stop having reruns of the referendum, when Remain win, why should Leave be denied a third go?” Good question when should it be….me personally, I don’t give a f**k if we vote on it every 5 years because voting intentions have barely shifted….Leave still wins. 🙂 Oh, following your logic about uncertainty, tell you what then…let’s make the next GE the last ever…..you know in case the one after causes a change in govt.

        • Nockian

          You are, like me, one of the few that regards this situation objectively. This yah boo sucks vs we won’t accept the will of the British people has become annoying. On the doorstep I made it plain that I did not think it would be milk and honey if we left, but that, in the final analysis we would have an opportunity outside the EU, only if we were strong enough to take advantage of it. Many people accepted it might well mean pain in the short term.

          • gunnerbear

            “On the doorstep I made it plain that I did not think it would be milk and honey if we left, but that, in the final analysis we would have an opportunity outside the EU, only if we were strong enough to take advantage of it. Many people accepted it might well mean pain in the short term.” Yup. I found as well, when discussing the whole issue of Brexit, few if any, expected anything other than a process given we’ve been linked to Europe for decades. A number of older Leave voters I know, have openly told me they expect to be dead before all the links have been cut.

            • Little Black Censored

              I don’t think “cutting links” is quite the right way to put it. Even if we were to return to the situation before the Common Market we should still be connected in thousands of ways, and a lot of the other connections we have made since then are bound to be kept. The vital difference will be where the authority lies to make decisions, by people we elect. The Government, Parliament and the Civil Service will have to get used to exercising a lot more responsibility than they do now.

            • gunnerbear

              More than fair comment.

        • Lacerta viridis

          Farage is not the government, idiot.

          • gunnerbear

            And neither are the Remainers….I’m not sure what point you’re making is?

            • Lacerta viridis

              Except for Osborne, Cameron, May, Hammond, Rudd, …
              Idiot.

            • gunnerbear

              The people demanding a second referendum aren’t in govt.

        • Ravenscar

          show me the quote and link.

          • gunnerbear

            Since you asked…

            Farage told the Mirror: “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.”

            http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017 http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/remember-that-time-nigel-farage-said-52-48-votes-should-lead-to-second-referendum-5963900/ …his stupid statement provides perfect ammunition for the Remain’s campaign for a second vote….because it came out of the mouth of one of the key figures fighting for Leave.

            • Cato The Elder

              Except that, …..respectfully, (and HNY to all here, btw), Saint Nigel said this in the context of saying that if the result was the wrong way round, he would accept this as showing him that he had not made his case strongly or well enough, and would go away, learn from his mistakes, and start building again.

              That, certainly is what I have heard him say after the result, and that was, indeed, the basis on which I went to bed that night, fearing that we were doomed to stay “In”.

            • gunnerbear

              That is some spin…..Nigel F. made it clear unless he won, he’d keep fighting….the Remainers have taken him at his word (just as on the night of the ’75 Ref., as the results were coming in, the great Powell made it clear he’d fight on as well to overturn the In result).

            • Cato The Elder

              No spin necessary.

              The truth is normally the best and most resonant medium.

              Yes, Nigel said he would keep on fighting, but he said he would accept the result, accept that he had not been good enough to get over the line, and learn from it.

              However, yes, he did say that he would carry on campaigning, would carry on demonstrating why our membership of the EU was utterly wrong. So, yes, it would be unfinished business for him.

              He was, however, sufficiently realist to appreciate that this (wrong) 52% : 48% vote would have to be respected and that it would be a valid plebiscite, whose mandate would be valid for a very long time.

              How long he would have deemed sufficient to lick his wounds, I would have had to leave up to him to say, but I believe him to be sufficiently responsible to want us out asap, but would – for the sake of the country, and as a democrat, – not want a second referendum within the next 10 years.

            • gunnerbear

              Sorry, I’m not buying the 10 year wait bit….Nigel F. would’ve been just like Enoch P. in ’75 – on the very night that the results were coming in and it was clear the UK had voted remain, Powell made it clear that he’d campaign to get the UK out as soon as possible.

            • Cato The Elder

              I’m afraid I can’t help what you choose to believe, gunnerbear,

              However, I respectfully suggest that we are not comparing apples with apples. The result in 1975 was much more decisive then 52% : 48%, so Powell’s decision was the only option for someone of his convictions and integrity.

              I agree that it is all very well doing this with 20:20 vision, and the benefit of a much more active media, where every utterance is preserved for eternity, but I can only rely upon what another person whom I believe to be honest and a “stand up bloke” has said, in that Farage has said that he went to bed that night believing he had lost, that the opportunity had been lost for a generation, but that he resolved to fight on, learn his lessons, go away for a time and continue to demonstrate the folly of our continued membership, and hope to do better next time.

              I think you would agree that in both cases, getting the UK out of the Common Market (latterly EU) was not going to be practically achieved overnight. For both Powell and Farage, this “out as soon as possible” could only be achieved by referendum, one of which had just occurred in a country not given to such votes, and so, such opportunity to get us “out as soon as possible” would not present itself again readily, which Farage pragmatically recognised.

              However, thank goodness, (and the 52%), that is not currently an issue.

            • gunnerbear

              The very words “unfinished business” are the ammunition.

            • Cato The Elder

              OK, well, for you, these words signify a whole lot more to you than to others.

              Of course, Farage was going to fight on, as he’d devoted a lot of his life to the cause, but he doesn’t say how, nor does he say that he wanted a fresh referendum immediately after a close 52%:48% Remain vote.

              Again, I can’t help what you choose to think, but you are also helping justify the behaviour of all those who wish to overturn the will of the 52%, and seem to think that whatever you think Farage said massively underpins and is the reason for what they are doing.

              I don’t think it does, I don’t think he would be acting the way they are now, and there, I am afraid, we are going to have to leave it.

            • gunnerbear

              “Of course, Farage was going to fight on, as he’d devoted a lot of his life to the cause, but he doesn’t say how, nor does he say that he wanted a fresh referendum immediately after a close 52%:48% Remain vote.” So what did he want then if it wasn’t another vote….. I’m a Leave voter…but I have to say I think your dancing on the head of a pin….Farage was saying, “If we lose, f**k ’em….we fight on for another vote…” …it was a stupid thing for him to say but it’s pointless to say he didn’t mean that..

            • Cato The Elder

              Well, gunnerbear, I originally took issue with you saying that Farage had given ammo to the Remoaners, because he had said that 52:48 in their favour would be “unfinished business”, (which he had, but that this meant – according to your / Maguire’s interpretation – that he – as they are now doing – would want an immediate rerun of the vote and would seek to overturn the result, if I read you correctly. I thought you were mistaken.

              We appear to have moved you away from that assertion. For Farage, it was neither practical, given the disruption that would be caused, nor pragmatic, as it would be seen – as is happening now – as sour grapes.

              So, yes, Farage’s “unfinished business” was- as I have been trying to demonstrate to you – to not demand a recount and / or an immediate second / third referendum, but to front up; say, “We lost. WE RESPECT THE RESULT. We did not do enough to convince people as to our cause and argument. We need to learn from this, go away, let things settle down, but in the interim, continue to demonstrate why we believe the EU to be flawed beyond repair, to be incapable of reform, and that the UK’s membership is not in the national interest, and hope to build sufficient pressure for this case to be made to the public again in due course.”

              ( When, exactly that might be, I wouldn’t like to speculate – once they started sticking ever closer union to us? undermining NATO with their “EU Defence Force”?, saying we had to adopt the Euro? – I dunno. Fortunately that ain’t necessary right now. (Cheers, Applause)

              Please note that there is no mention here of wanting an immediate rerun, as Maguire attributed to him.

              Another referendum – in due course – was the only way of achieving Farage’s aim, but that night, he believed the opportunity had gone for a generation. So, his unfinished business was to fight on, to build a stronger vote base, and go again, but NOT IMMEDIATELY OR EVEN SOON THEREAFTER, for reasons I have been trying to show here.

              That’s it. I’m done.

              See you on another topic.

            • Ravenscar

              True enough, it was a rather careless statement, done without much thought. Albeit, unfortunately…fortunately, I can’t help but feel that Mr. Farage didn’t believe the Leave campaign would triumph, neither did many, maybe anyone else – including cameron and his mates, the opinion pollsters and Berlin-Brussels.

              Yes Leave won but will they let us leave – and that’s the problem – the UK remain campaign is still in full swing – indeed ramped it up………… whereas certain Leave campaigners for whatever their reasons – threw in the towel “job done”………….er no, no the job is not done – by a long, long, long chalk.

            • Nockian

              And if we don’t leave, if they now attempt a fudge, then there will be a backlash. It’s not good to stir up the wasps nest and then expect not to be properly stung.

            • gunnerbear

              Oh, there’s a lot more grinding process work to be done to make Brexit a success.

            • Malcolm

              Indeed. The most dangerous thing for a proper Brexit would be for Leave supporters to presume that one battle victory means that the war itself is over; it is not. It is vital that we do not cede the initiative to those who would reverse the referendum decision but continue to be publicly vocal in our determination to have that result fully enacted. The idea, being actively touted by the likes of Blair and Adonis, that the tide of public opinion has turned in favour of remaining in the EU must be stridently countered at every opportunity or the referendum may yet turn out to be a Pyrrhic victory.

            • gunnerbear

              I don’t think the tide of opinion has turned….I still think if you ran another vote tomorrow, you’d get the same results.

            • Malcolm

              Perhaps, in fact at the moment I sense that reluctant Remain voters would probably switch sides increasing the size of the majority, but like water on a stone if the counter view is stated enough unchallenged it gains currency. Complacency is the biggest danger to Brexit imho.

            • James Dexter

              Fake News – just a made up comment

            • gunnerbear

              Except he did say it….it’s a direct quote.

    • Tony in Southwark

      Ignoring the ‘fragrant’ Umoanna, let us just remind ourselves of the staggering victory the people of this country had over the ENTIRE Establishment – every one of them from the vast majority of Political Classes as the major parties and the smaller Nationalist wannabees, the career Civil Service, the Big Brother monopolistic CBI Businesses, the entire Groves of Academe and their associated Swamps of Education, the Quality Press, the Bigoted Broadcasting Corporation, along with its ‘independents and that special ‘dependency class the Commentariat, the alleged Comedians with their snarling prejudices, the Luvvies of the Glitterati and Culturatti and their associated hangers on of the ‘Sports Personalities’, all of them ALL, got the biggest Collective Kick in the Crotch and then up the Backside from the vast Majority of the Electorate who turned out in the largest proportion and numbers ever seen in our Country.
      This was achieved not only against the EUroFantasists but also in no small part despite the unremitting propaganda which turned out to be so shallow that even Spending Twice as Much on the Remain side (that does not include the Government Leaflet neutrally explaining we Must Remain – for which Cameron should be Surcharged) as on Leave ad We Still Won!

      • Lacerta viridis

        Surcharged? Imprisoned!

      • Ravenscar

        superb comment.

    • Photon

      He’s just trying to keep himself in the limelight, he knows Jezza will never have him on anything but paperclip monitoring

    • Ken

      On a positive note, at least he isn’t blaming it all on the Russians ….. yet ….

    • Bardirect

      The man is stupid. Stupidity he is insulated from only by his personal wealth. Unlike his constituents.

      • Andy

        You’re right: He isn’t very bright.

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